Samgoose trying to Cook Up Another Drama... again

I say man, Samgoose you can fool your sorhai followers, Hahaha!  But not me lar..  Hahaha!

1. Firstly, you trying to fabricate an impression that the famous blogger left the following comments at your blog... my foot, Hahaha:

 alex said...

Just my 2 cents on the current Citibank and Bank of America share prices..

Banking stocks like Bank of America and Citibank are pretty much finished. Their liabilities are over hundreds of billions and even if the US Govt is to backstop them, it would do little to improve their share price. As the US govt pumps more money into these too-big to fail banks, ..

April 20, 2009 12:31 AM

2. Why I said this alex is fake one, because the profile of this alex (who left comments at your blog) is not available if you click on the blogger name.

3. This is the real Alex Lu profile.

4. This the best part, Hahaha, the sorhai Samgoose acting really like sorhai, talking to the fake alex, aka talking to himself lar. Hahaha. 

       Samgoss said...

      2 alex from nextrade blog..thanks 4 showing interest on my blog ^_^


To the followers of Samgoose. Hellooo, are you aware it's that kind of sorhai you are following?  Hahaha! *grin ^S^ 

Samgu, you jealous Alex Lu having better populality than you? you jealous Alex Lu better educated than you? you jealous Alex Lu has bigger heart than you? Hahaha!!!  This Alex Lu could be making millions but he never kacau around like the monkey who only made few hundreds K, Hahaha!!!  Jangan marah arh, I am only joking!!! Hahaha!!!

Hahaha! Do you really really know FA? Sorhai!!!

Hahaha! Making money or making loss???  Do you really really know FA? 

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Citigroup reported a first-quarter loss that was narrower than analysts expected Friday and said its Tier 1 capital ratio improved dramatically compared with the same period of last year.

Citigroup's [C 3.65 -0.36 (-8.98%) ] loss per share was 18 cents in the first three months of the year, compared with a loss of $1.03 a share in the year-ago period.

On average analysts predicted a loss of 34 cents a share.

The bank's Tier 1 capital ratio was around 11.8 percent versus 7.7 percent in the first quarter 2008, Citigroup said in a statement.

Revenue rose 99 percent from the first quarter of 2008 to $24.8 billion, driven by strong results in the Institutional Clients Group, the bank said.  

The company said income available to shareholders was lowered by 24 cents a share from the conversion price of the $12.5 billion convertible preferred stock issued in a private offering in January last year. 

"This did not have an impact on net income but resulted in a reduction to income available to common shareholders of $1.3 billion or $0.24 per share. Without this reduction, earnings per share were positive," Citigroup said.

The results included $10.3 billion of credit costs, up 76 percent, with a large portion of the increase stemming from credit cards. This included $7.3 billion of net credit losses, a $2.7 billion increase to loss reserves, and $332 million for other benefits and claims. 

Citigroup shares fell 6 percent after rising as much as 15 percent in pre-market trading.

Waiting for Stress Test Results

The bank also said it planned to delay the proposed exchange of billions of dollars of preferred shares into common stock until the U.S. government completes its "stress tests" of large banks to gauge which might need more capital or aid. 

Despite topping analysts esitmates, some analysts were concerned about how the numbers reflect the bank's overall health and said the results must be thoroughly scrutinized.

Die Lor.. Hold Lor.. Hahaha!

Citigroup Credit Losses Rising Rapidly, Goldman Says (Update1) 

By Nick Baker and Kelvin Wong


April 20 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc.’s credit losses are growing at a “rapid rate,” undermining Chief Executive Officer Vikram Pandit’s efforts to stabilize the U.S. bank, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. 

While Citigroup posted first-quarter net income of $1.6 billion last week, the New York-based bank suffered an “underlying” loss of 38 cents a share, Richard Ramsden, a Goldman Sachs analyst, wrote in a research note dated yesterday. He repeated a “sell” rating on the stock. 

Citigroup, which received $45 billion in government aid, ended a five-quarter losing streak on trading gains and an accounting benefit for companies in distress. The bank, which cut compensation costs and took fewer writedowns, still reported higher delinquencies on home and credit-card loans. 

The results “included several one-time items which muddied the waters,” Ramsden wrote in the note. “The key question mark in our mind remains what Citi’s earnings power will be on the other side of the crisis.” 

Citigroup fell to $3.54 in German trading today from $3.65 on April 17 in New York trading. The shares have dropped 46 percent this year, paring the bank’s market value to about $20.1 billion. 

Ramsden halved his estimate for Citigroup’s 2009 loss to 25 cents per share, while keeping unchanged his forecast for 20 cents net income per share for 2010. He also introduced an estimate of 40 cents per share profit for 2011. 

The analyst kept a 12-month price target for the stock of $1.50. Citigroup’s shares fell 36 cents, or 9 percent, to $3.65 on April 17, the day it announced first-quarter earnings. The decline brought the stock’s loss this year to 46 percent. 

Fixed-Income Boom 

Fourteen of 18 analysts covering Citigroup rate the stock the equivalent of a “sell” or a “hold,” according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The bank, once the world’s largest financial-services company by market value, now ranks as No. 70, Bloomberg data shows. 

Citigroup had $4.69 billion of bond trading revenue in the quarter, as it benefited along with Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase & Co. from the failure of Wall Street competitors and the government-led rescue of the financial system. Sales of U.S. corporate bonds surged to $438 billion this year, up more than 50 percent from a year earlier, according to Bloomberg data. 

The fixed-income bonanza, along with wider net interest margins and gains from accounting changes, masked declines in credit-card and consumer banking revenue, and soaring costs to cover bad loans at its credit card unit. 

Last Updated: April 20, 2009 04:28 EDT

Cpotrader aka Constance aka Shoe Shine Boy Sorhai aka flying pig, Hahaha!!!

Hahaha! Today market teh tarik, I take a break and present you the new Sorhai!  Who's is this guy then? I also don know, he has way too many nicknames, that's why, samegang dengan samgu samgoss samgang mah, Hahaha!

 Constance said...
FKLI. Manyak senang. Short now until Aug. That ll be my position 
FKLI manyak senang kah? I trade so long with profit each year and yet I never said it is senang..... Klang student+ Malacca sifu = kura-kura in the shell..... lagi wanna trade forex with your TA??? .... aiyoh.......stay where you belongs and dont make jokes in other places..... stay there and be your shell king forever lar.....
April 10, 2009 5:55 PM

Hahaha! now read this cpotrader's post of http://myfkli.blogspot.com/2009/04/still-in-5th-tradepart-4.html

Thursday, April 2, 2009
STILL IN 5TH TRADE......PART 4 
I remember an expert said that he will short FKLI all the way down since beginning of the year! The so called TA expert learn his skill from a so called TA sifu which I think more like a TA maniac! TA maniac, when is your coming seminar? I heard you are going to pass down all your skills during your seminar.

Hahaha! Dejavu...

- I say man, why so sour soul? got hurt before is it? Hahaha!

- Please lar, flying pig, no need wasting your time making up tons of nicknames and hiding under your mama's skirt . The whole world know it's you. Hahaha!  

- I can understand why you can be the best friend of samgu, Hahaha!

This is my famous statement, I am not taking anybody's side, nor any FA/TA camp's side.  I just expose the sorhais for my own pleasure, it will be a bonus if you enjoy reading them.  Hahaha! Sorhaiii!!!

Samgu, come mari come

Hahaha, Samgu, thank you ar, dropping by here to do some soul searching, Hahah!!!  Remember, I don't exist, what you think about my site is only a reflection of who you are, Hahaha!!!  To help you know yourself better why you hate TA buggers so much.. and you like to win so much... here comes the free psycho analysis ^V^

Check out these signs ... of YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX

1. Sensitivity To Criticism:

Although people who feel inferior “know” they have shortcomings, they do not like other people to point this out. They tend to perceive any form of criticism, regardless of how sensitively or constructively it is presented, as a personal attack. 

2. Hypercritical Attitude:
People who do not feel good about themselves have trouble feeling good about anyone else. They look hard for flaws and shortcomings of others to try to convince themselves that they really aren’t so bad after all. These people cannot feel intelligent, attractive, competent, etc., unless they are the most intelligent, attractive and competent person around.

3. Inappropriate Response To Flattery:
This can work two ways. Some people are desperate to hear anything good about themselves and will be constantly fishing for compliments. Others may refuse to listen to anything positive about themselves because it is inconsistent with their own feelings.

4. Tendency Toward Blaming:
Some people project their perceived weaknesses onto others in order to lessen the pain of feeling inferior. From here, it is only a short step to blaming others for one’s failures.

5. Negative Feelings About Competition:
People who feel inferior like to win games and contests every bit as anyone else, but they tend to avoid such situations because deep down, they believe they cannot win. And not coming in first is clear evidence of total failure.

Time to Make Money and Honey later.. Hahaha ^$^

Whatever gang you are, this is not the time to be sour . Hahaha!!! It's time to make money. ^$^
... To be continued ...

Results Show?

Maxforce said...

OK here comes my comment:
1)YTLPwr-WB
As this is warrant, it depends on the mother share. But instead of looking at FA stuff, I m merely going to compare the mother chart and the baby chart.

Grandma story:
YTLPwr was in uptrend until end 2007. Thereafter we see a huge drop - downtrend. In Apr 2008 onwards, the price move in range signalling potential accumulation process begun. However, the recent weeks runup has met some resistance and currently unable to break the resistance.

Grandma story 2:
YTLPwr-WB begun and price dropped since. At end Nov, the price ran up. Recent weeks unable to break the high. The runup is in tandem with the runup in the mother share.
The resistance now also in tandem with the mother share.

Sam's Comment:
Sam's comment to buy YTLPwr at less than 0.55 looked very likely.

My recomendation:
Current moment: SELL
Potential buy price target:
When YTL Power is around 1.65 and YTLPwr WB is around 0.45.
If YTLPwr WB goes to 0.45 while YTL Power is higher than 1.65, this price target is invalidated.

I say man : Both No Score XXX

2)KNM
Grandma story:
Runup from cents region to ringgit region begun in 2006.
In 2008, distribution took place. Uptrend line broke in Jul 2008 signalling downtrend stage begun.
High volume registered in Oct and price downward momentum decreased signalling potential accumulation begun.

My recommendations:
HOLD first. Potential to buy around 0.40 remains high. Price to run high high, belum lagi. Wait for two more months. For long term people, can accumulate around this 0.40 price target.

I say man : Still around 0.40. Maxforce you said two more months, now it is about the time.

3)SIME
Grandma stories:
Runup begun late 2007. Late 2008 to beginning 2009 distribution took place. Super Gap (my own term, not TA :P) happenned in Mar 2009 signalling super downtrend.
Currently while price is at prior to runup, no signs of assumulation process begun.

My recommendations:
NO BUY. Wait until accumulation begun for long term buyers. For TA buyers, as usual, wait for uptrend signals.

I say man : When is the bloody BUY signal to come? Are we there yet? *wink ^V^ grin*

xxx

January 18, 2009 11:17 AM

Herbert, thank you for keep coming back *grin. grin ^V^

Congrats to Herbert, finally you get to un-trap your Resorts, hahaha!

Keep up the good works. Waiting for your forehand calls. *grin. grin ^V^

Hahaha!

Samantha

I say man : Hahaha! Will the real Samantha please stand out, please stand out. Very fishy Samantha this one, aka Sam? Hahaha! You may change the name, but you can't change what make you of. Hahaha!

P/S: I will remove the cbox from now on, to save my time on the management of this blog. Hahaha!

Samantha said...

hi Sifu sam,

thanks for the Citi..I have earn some pocket money ;p

thank u thank u thank u thank u thank u...

Sifu sam, Ni Hai Tak Geh!!!!!!!!
GONG HEI GONG HEI!!!!
so happy :-)

March 19, 2009 11:25 PM

Why So Long GrandMa Story???

I say man : Why So Long GrandMa Story.. If like this, then like that, no beggars loh...
Samgu turning into Backhand Seng loh... Mouth Water More Than Tea.. Hahaha!
Bottom line is: Samgu got bought AIG bo? Hahaha!
This season is full of good shows:
First, we have seen Samgu openly back-hand TMI cut-loss.
Second, Samgu back-hand talks on AIG.
Third, Samgu openly admitted this AIG not FA buy call, and negative P/E.
What next? Hahaha!

(Footnote: Herbert, I feel bad for you, your citi run so fast and yet you let her go so early. Hahaha!)

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Thursday, March 19, 2009

^V^ Who wants to be millionaire ? XXX =AIG @ 0.60+- ^V^

^V^

Bingo ! some of u guys got it right , XXX is AIG ! Y AIG ? FA ? of course "NO", AIG is in deep shit now, huge debt awaitng 4 her to settle, PE is negative worr? then y buy AIG ? uncle sam gila liaooo ?? ha ha

Hahaha! This is how I fished a Sorhai!!!

I can see you learn this multiple nickname scheme from you sorhai sifu... Hahaha!
May I be more specific?.. you Johor Bahru sorhai... Hahaha!
Please don't cabut yet ler, I wanna thank you for keep coming back and up my hit rate (yes, I untung google ads orrr.. free money who don't want, thank you ar.. Hahaha)

ING whole family die 17 Mar 09 17:29 60.49.214.241
ING Wow 17 Mar 09 17:29 60.49.214.241

samgang ok? sorhai.. jangan marah ah 13 Mar 09 13:01 60.49.214.241
samgang or pls show me ur forehand call 13 Mar 09 13:01 60.49.214.241
samgang pls close ur blog ok 13 Mar 09 13:01 60.49.214.241
samgang sorhai 13 Mar 09 13:01 60.49.214.241

SORHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! Hahaha, jangan marah ah.

A boatful of Sorhai... Part II

TMI today closed 2.18, oh mamamia. Ikote Puta!
My condolences to the forgotten boat people whom your captain had jump boat before you knew it. Then again, you sifu saying if he buy back now can save him thousand of dollars ler. How? He told you to jump boat with him or not, no lar. I feel really sorry for you all. Just sorry only. Hahaha!

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chinoni said...
oni can bot 1.6 lot... huhuu
not enuf bullets maa:)
u jump i jump
February 25, 2009 10:56 AM

chinoni said...
bot at 3.08 just now. heee
February 25, 2009 11:11 AM

Neoguga said...
Samgoss : Thanks for the information sifu. Anyway i have joined the bandwagon at 3.10 (2lots).
Will accumulate a few more at 2nd half! ^^ Lunch time now. See you all at 2nd half!
^88^
February 25, 2009 12:22 PM

Voren_immerate said...
Sifu sam,
bot 2 lots at 3.10 just now.
As u said, hope to earn some pocket money for weekend. :)
February 25, 2009 1:16 PM

Felix The Cat said...
I am on the same boat. TMI@310
February 25, 2009 1:21 PM

alan said...
Just join the wagon. Bought 2 lot TMI at 3.1.
February 25, 2009 3:13 PM

GK said...
sam, i also bought 1 lot TMI for short-term trade. the lowest is 3.04, i totally confident on you.
February 25, 2009 3:23 PM

GK said...
wow.. blavo sam... 4 cents in hand... not bad not bad.. thanks for ur alert...
February 25, 2009 5:12 PM

Neoguga said...
Haiz sian... Couldn't add more TMI to my inventory. Only managed 2 lots only at 3.10. =(
Never mind tomorrow pancing again! ^^
Good day to all! ^^
February 25, 2009 5:29 PM

cken said...
After the whole day busy schedule. Just got to know my order for 2 lots of TMI (3.08) that I placed before the afternoon break done. Now closed at 3.14. start making money already. Thanks sifu.
February 25, 2009 6:25 PM

Myhshin said...
i'm join the boat as well. bought TMI @ 3.060 level this morning.
February 26, 2009 11:13 AM

Neoguga said...
If TMI or Resorts Holland, Malaysia can become Zimbabwe! :) Right SIfu?
Queuing for more TMI! ^^
3.06 come to papa!
February 26, 2009 11:55 AM

Neoguga said...
Managed to get 1 more lot of TMI at 3.06! ^^ (Total in hand 3)
If tomorrow reach RM 3 buy more! Sifu we fly we fly together. We sink we sink together ba! ^88^
February 26, 2009 5:25 PM

Herbert fuyoh!

I say man : Citi boy, whose site you referring to? Hahahaha! Come tell me, be a good boy. "anti us"????? Fuyoh! "us" as is "you and samgoss"? You same class with your sifu alreadi huh... Don't use such a big word "anti" please lar. You sounded like I am a terrorist, Hahahaha.. or your gang is the terrorist?? Hahahaha, at least I didn't use multiple ID or others' names to 背后放箭! *grin**^V^ (correct or not, uncle OKT!!! or Mr. mysterious theng, now you see me now you not.)

Wei, Herbert, open back your blog ler, show me how you grow your bank account ok? show me your real thing ok? Hahahaha....


herbert said...

Hi Sam,

Let's pick HSBC bank anything below $30. By the way, this is my last and the last the visit this Ah Cow GANG who are anti us.. wasted my time. As long as my bank accounts money keep growth no time for this Ah cow Seng and GANG who are talk only no action.. by the way, AH COW & AH GANG, my citibank (bought one lot at USD1.03 & dispose at USD1.70, within a week) fate one ok?? say only la.. feeling better now??? Hahaha..

Hi all, Samgang visitor.. Have a nice weekend.. Let's we focus on the real thing ok??

March 14, 2009 1:32 PM

Mr. X

I received a reply from Mr.X (not real name, I have to protect the identity lar), 

after I sent out a warning letter to various samgang readers (whom wanna receive tips).  

This Mr.X sounded very sensible.   

This is the kind of response I hope to receive.  

Thanks goodness, at least I know one of his readers doesn't belong to the Sorhai group.  

Mr.X, I will consider your proposals.  Thank you.

from	X
to		Same Gang
date		Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:13 PM
subject		Re: About Samgoss

Thx for the info but I don't worship him. I'm just a passive reader. In fact, I didn't buy TMI at all.... really lucky for me. Yeah, I'm sure some would be upset that he didn't inform regarding that.... Anyway, wouldn't it be better if your blog post useful info rather that having the never ending war? Looking forward to useful tips although I'm not planning to acquire any counter anytime soon. Wanna wait for the market to drop further. Thx anyway. X --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Same Gang  wrote: From: Same Gang  Subject: About Samgoss To: Hello I know you all worship Samgoss like he's god or something. My advice to you.  You have got to be careful. Latest TMI is one good example, he let the whole world know when he entered around 3.1, but when he cut loss and cabut at avg 2.7 (on Mar.3),  Did he mention to any of his followers? Not that I know, he kept that secret until today 12/Mar. You may not believe me, I just ask you to spend few minutes of your time reading my blog : www.samegang.blogspot.com before you make your judgement. You may not like what I wrote, you be the judge.  Thank you. SG

Hahahaha! Sorry to tell you your captain had jumped boat alreadi, before you knew it of course.

Samgoss, apa beza you and back hand seng, what took you so long to come out of the closet? Hahahaha!! You sold your TMI on 3/Mar/2009!!! As for the boatful of sorhai, didn't I warn you beforehand? You see your so called sifu already sold on 3/Mar, but his comments on 5/Mar as if he still holding and only today 12/Mar he decided to break this "bad" news. You see lah. you see lah. (Hahahaha, ok, you can think that i made up all this story to fool you..... NOT!).
Lastly, I am sorry to tell you this, Sorhais, you have been farked!!!
Samgoss said...

2 kikilala..yes..i noticed that oso..i am waiting to buy back @ <0.55>

2 GK..seems like someone try to push her down..still d old saying.. no averaging... when time is right, if possible, i will sell them off n buy back at lower price .

Look at GI , up 3 cts despite d DOW slump, u can see how strong she is !0.40 n below..sapu ^V^

March 5, 2009 1:25 AM

Congrats to herbert! Hahahaha!

I say congrats to herbert citi boy first before herbert comes here kacau me! Hahahaha.
This herbert very good. Can predict citi bottom or the mini earning results, no need FA already. xxxxxxxxxxxx

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If u ever drop by in dongguan , try it ^V^ ...get d feel of being a king ^V^

2 ck5354..nice catch 4 yr tmi... dont 4get to take profit once u see it ^_^..

Congrats herbert 4 yt citi @1.02... u dah untung liaooo...

2 those who interested on HK stocks,, take a look at HSBC @ 32+-... I hv put in my buy order @ 30 on Monday..sighhh...nothing done at all ! it has rebounded to 40 liaooo...

I will definitely buy in if she ever drop below 32 again ^V^

Sorhai wants Stereotyped Analysis, here you have it,

25 Feb. 2009
TMI Closed 3.14 (Samgoss called a "swing buy" and bought avg. 3.10)
Gpacket Closed 1.05

6 Mar. 2009
TMI Closed 2.5 (-0.64 or -20.38%)
Gpacket Closed 1.03 (-0.02 or -0.019%)

Stereotyped Analysis Options:
A) TMI FA still very strong, don't cut loss, don't average down, They are just trying to push down its price. We will hold, not like those TA buggers.
B) TMI water liu liu now. I will buy in around 2.00, with 50% Margin of Safety than those entered around 3.00.
C) Gpacket negative PE, stupid directors spending all the money developing new markets and investing in their infrastructure. They just holding up their share price for fools to follow, only TA buggers will be fooled.

You can choose any of the above if it makes you feel better. Hahahaha!

But for the hamyu Citi from 2.85 to 1.03 (-63%) in 10 trading day, still I can not analyse, I simply can't, too difficult for me, have to refer to hamyu sifu for that. Hahahaha!

Sorhai, you just gave yourself away!! Hahahaha!!

Let's take a look at this interesting remarks from an imposter (sudah biasalah...)

5 Mar 09, 08:04

samegang1: sorry is 482 hits in 2 months, equal to less tan 10 hits perday..ha ha where got ppl visit yr blog ? 88 u wont see me here anymore

5 Mar 09, 08:03 samegang1: 846 hits in 2months ? equal to 12 hits per day! ha ha dont u feel shame ? anyway, this would be my last visit here, 88 sorhai samegang ha ha ha

5 Mar 09, 08:01 samegang1: samgoss's track records tell all, more than 400K in 3 years, can u achieve that ? u are big talker only, look at the visitor hits? where got ppl visit here ? ha ha

I say man:

Of all my fuyoh articles, you can only criticise on my blog hit rate, small matter only, my purpose of this blog is to lure Sorhai like you in and expose yourself sendiri, use your brain sikit, Hahahaha.  Come on, I know you would come back here and check on me, don't walk away like a kid who just lost a fight? ok?

No, I can not achieve what samcooked did, he bought citi at 2.85 (19/Feb/09), and it dropped to 1.13 (4/Mar/09) in 9 trading days?  How to match that record? Hahahaha.

Another one,  he bought tmi at 3.10 (25/Feb/09), and it dropped to 2.63 (5/Mar/09) in 7 trading days?  How to match that record? Hahahaha.

Be honest with yourself and ask, those 2 counters, where got strong fundamentals?  where got?  or you can ask sorhai sifu again the FA findings for these 2 counters really really really good?  Simple questions only.. no need think until hair loss... Hahahaha.

Don't you know samcooked slogan "^V^你要坐BENZ靠自己個腦"?  You know the meaning?  It means: "If you wanna sit in a BENZ, you have to depend on your own brain"  Faham tak faham? use your own brain? not you jump, i jump.  Hahahaha!!!  You go hollan, can not blame him, he already told you to use your own brain what... Hahahaha!  

OK, you can blame TA for the falling prices.... you really think so?  Hahahaha!

anakin jadi anakmiskin, hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!

anakin, joining the dark force? very dark indeed.. wanna make Usd300 but now negative Usd300 woh.. how? your sifu got refund you or not? I say man, I forgot you and your sifu same boat woh... what Margin of safety? ah Seng rugi, you tak untung also woh... how? You think i very happy seeing you rugi? not really. I happy seeing sorhai samgoss followers going to holland like mice following flute player. you buy fish you will also know got to ask fresh or not, you buy citi you got asked P/E good or not? basic FA what.. I say man, I forgot, Citi negative earning, where got P/E... you think think.. I very kind, I give you free advice, but your ego can not stand me one (now very angry right?, hahahaha). Anyway, anyway, I have to say this to you, Sorhaiiiiiiii!

anakin said...
my bought on 300 unit Citi done at @ 2.25. Wow....drop to lower 1.94....really scary....
February 20, 2009 11:57 PM

anakin said...
yep....u absolutely right....i far away safer with Margin of safety Us 6.25 than Him.
For me, 300 unit to sold at Usd 3.2is more enough liao.
February 21, 2009 1:02 AM

Look What I found!!!

Dear Mr. KC of ssinvesting.blogspot.com,
I am pleased to invite you to join my privileged list of .....
Another sorhai!!! Another bodek fan of Samgoss!!! Another Egoistic Fool!!! Hahahaha..

KC, before we start the joy ride, just to clarify that i am who i am, so don't accuse me hoh, i don't represent any other famous or infamous bloggers... hahahaha.

I think you dare not post my comments in your blog, so might as well I share it here and add some more lines:

Since you don't understand TA, so no point to talk about volume on TA terms. Let's talk volume on FA terms.. since when Buffett mentioned he needs to consider volume when selecting stocks, no right? Then how come Samgoss 's FA formula mixed with volume? Can answer me or not? Hahahaha.. you have no idea about value investing, so don't pretend to be one. FA is to find stocks with intrinsic value, you find one, you buy.. no need Volume to time your entry. Correct or not? Hahahaha. so, my free advice to you, "Read More Few Years Book Lah".. 读多几年书啦！ or you can keep licking samgoss's boots, very shiney already.


KC wrote:

Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Samgoss on Price & Volume

Max says: Sam is not a pure FA guy. He uses the most basic TA tool - price and volume quite well. Whereas you started off as a real hardcore FA guy - remember when you first started blogging around the time I started F Trader?

Sam says: Oppp!! wait wait ! Sam is not a pure FA guy, sam is using TA tool – price n volume quite well? This one I think u r wrong! U r absolutely wrong!

First, let talk about price, well. Of course price is d main concern b4 I jump in to buy certain stock, u can’t expect me to buy KNM @ 1.75 (PE >20 ), Parkson @ 8.00 ( PE >25 ) ! Do u ? How can a sense FA investor not concern about price? If d price is far too high, obviously its PE would be high also! Not that? Come on…max come on ^V^

Second , talk about volume , once again , it is also simple common sense ^V^ u don’t need to be scientist to know rain is coming if u see thunder in sky, same goes to stock mkt, if u see vol picking up, obviously it must be something on , not necessary she will goes up it may come down also, 4 example “ Iris N KNM , they were traded with huge vol @ 0.12 n @ 1.08 two months ago ! How now? Up or down? See? Volume coming doesn’t mean buy! It can be sell also! D key success here is FA! So how? .still think that vol stand 4 TA tool? Come on max..Come on!

Not convince enuf ? k..give u another example, Seng 's favourite stock Gpacket !

When seng called to buy gpacket @ 4.50 last year , it was traded with huge volume ! if based on TA method, it is a sign of buy , right ? but if u based on FA method, it is definitely a sell ! cos @ 4.50, Gpacket was traded @ PE around 30+- ! only fool will buy at this price !

Well, let take another look at Gpacket @ 0.63 in Nov 2008 , it was hanging around @ 0.63+- with very tiny volume, once again..if based on volume , TA will tell u not to buy..but how come it shot up to as high as 1.20 !? y ?

See ? volume only tell u something is "ON" ! it doesnt tell u "Up' or "down" ! if u see a stock selling u @ PE < 10 ( esp blue chips like Sime ) with huge volume , u stand a very high chance of gaining profit in short term !

Max, is my reasoning acceptable to u ? believe or not , I hv never use any TA for my stock picking since day one !

A boatful of Sorhai... Need I say more?

Samgoss said...
Guys, just bot in 2 lots of TMI @ 3.12 for swing trade ^_^ ( hopefully can make few cts by end of d day) , be prepared to hold if mkt goes against u.
xxx
February 25, 2009 10:33 AM

Samgoss said...
Added another 3 lots of TMI @3.12, total 5 lots in hand ^V^
Forehand call seng ^_^
February 25, 2009 10:36 AM

Samgoss said...
bot another 5 lots again @ 3.08..total 10 lots in hand ^V^
February 25, 2009 10:41 AM

chinoni said...
oni can bot 1.6 lot... huhuu
not enuf bullets maa:)
u jump i jump
February 25, 2009 10:56 AM

raymond said...
HI SAM
I have few thing cant undertand sifu...With the recent announment on the dividen.Why TMI down when TM is rising?.
Is it a good time to enter for TMI...at around 3.0 to 3.12..
February 25, 2009 11:07 AM

Samgoss said...
2 chioni, 1.6 lots ? at what price ?
May be u can sell o.6 lots @ 3.20+ for safe play..
This TMI is 4 short term trade, try to make some weekend pocket money ..ha ha...
4 those who followed me.. wish u guys all d best..ha ha sour seng n his gang r watching us.. ha ha ha
February 25, 2009 11:09 AM

chinoni said...
bot at 3.08 just now. heee
February 25, 2009 11:11 AM

Samgoss said...
2 raymond , tm up tmi down ? ha ha u oso noticed that ar ? this is one of d reason y I bot in tmi , fyi..tmi 's FA is much better than tm, hence..3.08+ is actually a good deal 4 short term trade.
TMI 's qe will be out by this week , shld be below expectation based on tm's latest qe which has announced yesterday, but then horrr.. i think it has oledi reflected in price liaoo... not that ?
let c ^V^
February 25, 2009 11:16 AM

Neoguga said...
Sifu should i swap my TM for TMI? ^^ Confuse about this issue la..
Thanks
February 25, 2009 11:26 AM

Samgoss said...
rhb giving FV of 3.65 ..so high ar ?? 3.20+ to 3.30 more than enuf liaooo..read d below:-
xxx
February 25, 2009 11:27 AM

Samgoss said...
2 jason, read d below if u wanna to do swap:-
TM : Results in line but capital management surprise Outperform (up from MP)
4QFY09 Results/Briefing Note
xxx
February 25, 2009 11:47 AM

Neoguga said...
Samgoss : Thanks for the information sifu. Anyway i have joined the bandwagon at 3.10 (2lots).
Will accumulate a few more at 2nd half! ^^ Lunch time now. See you all at 2nd half!
^88^
February 25, 2009 12:22 PM

Voren_immerate said...
Sifu sam,
bot 2 lots at 3.10 just now.
As u said, hope to earn some pocket money for weekend. :)
February 25, 2009 1:16 PM

Felix The Cat said...
I am on the same boat. TMI@310
February 25, 2009 1:21 PM

davidjackham said...
Uncle Sam.. i think Bursa Malaysia owes you because KLCI market volume would be much lower if it wasn't for you and your picks :) Forehand calls like TMI stirs up our excitement in a depressed market like this. Kudos to you and FA! Hope TMI will shoot up in second half today and we can have a good weekend :P
February 25, 2009 1:52 PM

Samgoss said...
2 david n all, klse 's volume got nothing to do with my call , i am a small fly only , my call is not that influential as u thought.
Chances 4 us to me make $ from TMI is quite high, first, we r buying on dip.. second, tmi has strong supporting @3.02 , 3rd) it is one of d taiko bluechip with PE traded < style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">we r buying @ almost bottom, any short term rally from 2nd stimulus package will definitely send TMI > 3.20 ^V^
February 25, 2009 2:15 PM

alan said...
Just join the wagon. Bought 2 lot TMI at 3.1.
February 25, 2009 3:13 PM

Samgoss said...
so many ppl join d boat ar ? ho ho ho... jgn jgn this boat landed in a place called holland wor ha ha ha...holland or heaven..let c ..ok ? btw..to minimise my shares exposure , i hv taken profit on sime again , sold 2 lots @ 5.65.
Balance left is now 3 lots .
Yes , right issue is on its way..this could be one of d reason y she slump today.
February 25, 2009 3:20 PM

GK said...
sam, i also bought 1 lot TMI for short-term trade. the lowest is 3.04, i totally confident on you.
February 25, 2009 3:23 PM

Samgoss said...
2 ccdev, TMI n TM qe date r d same, tm has announced its QE yesterday noon, hence.. TMI 's qe shld be out by this 2 days ^V^
its qe shld be below expectation , that's we could buy tmi @ 3.08 , current price shld be factored in liaoo....
Woww, TMI closed @ 3.14 liaoo... not bad..we hv about 5cts margin of safety in hand liaooo....
February 25, 2009 4:55 PM

GK said...
wow.. blavo sam... 4 cents in hand... not bad not bad.. thanks for ur alert...
February 25, 2009 5:12 PM

Neoguga said...
Haiz sian... Couldn't add more TMI to my inventory. Only managed 2 lots only at 3.10. =(
Never mind tomorrow pancing again! ^^
Good day to all! ^^
February 25, 2009 5:29 PM

cken said...
After the whole day busy schedule. Just got to know my order for 2 lots of TMI (3.08) that I placed before the afternoon break done. Now closed at 3.14. start making money already. Thanks sifu.
February 25, 2009 6:25 PM

Samgoss said...
2 all, happy 2 hear that.. my advice 2 u guys..dont be greedy, dont 4get to take profit n sell on rise , I will sell half on strength 2molo..
It is not wise to buy n hold ,if u r able 2 take profit..take it !
We must make it very clear here, TMI is 4 swing trade , i am sure we can make few round like what we did on TNB , just found that EPF is buying heavily 4 past 1 week, read d below :-
xxx
February 25, 2009 6:36 PM

herbert said...
Oh, Resort and Huaan earning go holland.. what the sad man... <="=>
February 25, 2009 8:47 PM

herbert said...
Ah Seng Kow!!! Are u the best TRADER of the year 2009?? haha..
Pls show me your be forehand call and the outcome like our uncle sam.. good and bads news oh!!! haha..
xxx.
February 25, 2009 10:33 PM

Myhshin said...
i'm join the boat as well. bought TMI @ 3.060 level this morning.
February 26, 2009 11:13 AM

Samgoss said...
Gd morning guys,wowww TMI back to our cost liaoo...u ding u ding ....
As 4 resorts, one word 4 her "short term pain , long term gain " , as i said, if mkt goes against us..hold lol ^V^..wont die one ^_^
February 26, 2009 11:26 AM

Neoguga said...
If TMI or Resorts Holland, Malaysia can become Zimbabwe! :) Right SIfu?
Queuing for more TMI! ^^
3.06 come to papa!
February 26, 2009 11:55 AM

Neoguga said...
Managed to get 1 more lot of TMI at 3.06! ^^ (Total in hand 3)
If tomorrow reach RM 3 buy more! Sifu we fly we fly together. We sink we sink together ba! ^88^
February 26, 2009 5:25 PM

herbert said...
Dear Uncle Sam,
Do you feel tempting to buy KNM, if he come down to anything below RM0.20 cents??? I'm tempted now.. Haha.. Pls give me advice, ok?? KNM last minute purchase own share oh..
How about u, Ah seng kow?? Your TA approach?? what is the advice.. Wakaka....
February 27, 2009 6:32 PM

Samgoss said...
TMI latest losses contributed by forex loss, read d below>>
TMI : Potential dilution woes Market Perform
xxx
u can see she got very strong support @ 3.00+- , is recent slump already factored in its price ? I guessyes , anyway..dont do averaging , 3.08+- n 3.02+_ is not much different.
as 4 knm, see ? as i said... avoid ! good earning results also cant stop her from following down, there must be something wrong somewhere.
2 CS, this is share mkt , very unpredictable ^_^ esp during super bear mkt, be it FA or shit stocks, all across d board " Lau SAI" !!
February 28, 2009 1:05 AM

Samgoss is busted again, by not so sorhai seng (for this time only), hahahaha

Hahahaha, sorhai samgoss multiple id scheme is busted again. this time by seng, must be sweet sweet taste for seng, hahahaha. Sorhai samgoss, don know how to change user name? hahahaha.

If you are sorhai samgoss fans, use your senses and consciences now, don't be emotional.. just look at what seng found out, at this link http://fusioninvestor.blogspot.com/2009/02/can-you-tell-difference.html
To his fans, he maybe be good at shares picking, may be entertaining of what he writes.. but he is the lowest in terms of integrity. so don be a sorhai to follow him, unless you want to grow up to be just like him.. hahahaha.

Samgoss, ah Singh is watching your backside, you be careful or Your gods also can not help you. hahahaha.

Samgoss - Sifu of all Sorhais

Samgoss said...

Let touch a little bit about Gpacket , there is one thing i really dun understand , if u ask any of d TA bugger , hey dude..i hv a brand new 2.4 honda accord here..come..i sell it 2 u @ RM200K , interested ? I am very sure they will shoot u down by saying " u bodoh ar ? y shld i pay RM200K when d mkt is only selling 160K ?

I say man : Sorhai sifu trying to lead his readers to hollan again. TA bugger trade shares, not keep shares. The example of h0nda accord this sorhai sifu brougt up is like comparing apple to orange, off topic lah. Well, come to think of the off topic example, even if market price is 160K, if there is strong demand and weak supply, you think people won't buy it at 200K? This is FA what. Hahahaha... crazy? not really, you can think back when Proton wira was selling like hotcake 15yrs ago, people really willing to pay higher price for Proton wira..even a used one.

See? they r not stupid ! they know how 2 value thing when come to purchase but then horrr.. i really dun understand y they still jump all d way down 2 gpacket despite knowing gpacket is running @ huge losses ? y ?

I say man : Trader trades, better traders make money.. despite hollan shares. sorhai sifu keeps on barking at the gpacket, but when sorhai sifu traded citi, then it was ok.. hahahaha.. citi p/e good meh? Sorhai samgoss, you can swing trade, others can also..

Buying gpacket is like buying kenari @ RM 150K ! she worth that much ?

I say man : Now sorhai sifu is just plain prejudice against gpacket, or just using gpacket to attack TA bugger. I pity his sorhai readers lah, being brain-washed and blind-folded. When you accept this kind of example of buying cars vs. trading shares, you have fallen into his trap of hollan logic already.

Making profit company like IOI also cant escape from downgrading from buy to sell ? what make u think that gpacket can rally up to 1.80 ? bcos of TA ? look at its latest eps.. Wowww from negative 3.2 cts jumped to negative 11 cts ! dont u think it is very serious ?

I say man : IOI down because CPO price down, I thought that's basic FA, bukan? hahahahah. Now sifu sorhai is plain idiot saying " u think that gpacket can rally up to 1.80 ? bcos of TA ?" Aiyoyo, since when TA is running the gpacket? even if gpacket can run up to 1.80, surely it's the credit of its CEO, not TA, bukan? I think sorhai samgoss trying to mislead sorhai readers again la. If samgoss really good at FA, no need to be so sour, just explain to his sorhai readers why gpacket so teruk FA wise(no only just P/E ratio, can touch a bit on cash flow, business model....) By the way, you think gpacket's wimax broadband service can not compete with other telco? Professional sikit, analise good good to your sorhai readers. then again, sorhai sifu just cha kuey tiau chinaman. I can understand that, hahahaha.

Come on come on ! only fool will push her up 4 u to make money ! where is yr sense ?

I say man : Only smart money will push her up for fools to chase. may i ask you back, where is yr sense?? hahahaha

I can only say : samgose, samgose, master of facts twisting, and born losers will take his arguements at par value.

Sorry, out of stock.

Short of sorhai supply lately of angker samgoss's fans.  They must have turned smart after my free brain-opening tips to them.  Hahahaha!   You can run but you can not hide, hahahaha!

Gpacket Trap Questions

Samgoss said...

come back 2 gpacket , she shot up 9 cts today to 1.09 with huge vol traded ! so how TA buggers ? buy ? or u wanna to wait 4 further signals ? based on FA.. she has been running at loss 4 past 3 qtrs..PE negative ! unless u hv solid insider news or its boss is yr father, otherwise avoid n definitely not wise to buy at all !
...February 3, 2009 2:39 PM
or u TA buggers need to wait till >1.20 ? to get a better picture ? if so, what if d manipulators throw all to u @1.20 ?? does it make sense ? think pls..think !
...February 3, 2009 11:11 PM
Gpackect up another 6 cts today ? how now TA buggers ? we r still waiting 4 yr call !? need to wait till >1.20 to confirm yr call ? come on !
...February 4, 2009 12:01 PM

I say man: Hello Samgoss, I know your tactics. Hahahaha... the agenda is to lure the so called TA buggers 引君入甕. Fuyoh! And later you will instigate your sorhai supporters against them. Fuyoh!

Your Sifu Samgoss not Zhugeliang but 伪君子岳不群 Hahahaha!

像岳不群这样的虚伪之人，却要处处装出一副高高在上的正人君子的模样，他们的内心世界和外在表现有着巨大的反差，甚至尖锐矛盾对立。他们是怎样调和这样尖锐的矛盾，适应内心和外在的双重生活呢？这就是心理防御机制在起作用。

　　▲ 了解心理防御机制

　　心理防御机制是自我调和与本我、超我之间关系，适应复杂的外界环境，保持心理平衡的手段。当以上因素超出了自我的适应能力，引发强烈的焦虑和罪恶感时，将会无意识地激活一系列的防御机制来保护自我，缓解或消除不安和痛苦。

　　▲ 常见的心理防御机制有如下几种

　　△否认，对痛苦的现实无意识地加以否定

　　△压抑，将意识不能接受的观念、情感或冲动抑制到无意识中去

　　△合理化，通过似乎有理的解释或理由为其难以接受的行为、情感辩护

　　△升华，将社会所不能接受的性欲或攻击性冲动的能量转向更高级的、社会能接受的目标或渠道，进行创造性的活动。

　　当然，还有诸如投射、移植、抵消、幽默、认同、反向形成等多种防御机制都在起作用。

　　▲ 从心理防御机制 看岳不群的伪装

　　△投射作用：岳不群为了掩饰自己的真实目的，保持伪君子的形象，不断在外界寻找大奸大邪的讨伐对象，先是东方不败，后是任我行。就是把自己不能接受或欲加掩饰的欲望、感觉和想法投射到别人身上，以避免自己难受，或被别人发现。

　　△反向形成：又称“矫枉过正”：为了克制自己和社会所不能容忍和接受的冲动和欲望，干脆走到极端的反面。于是，岳不群就有了一副行为端庄、德行高尚的谦谦君子嘴脸。

　　△合理化：面对为达到个人目的，而给令狐冲带来的苦难和不幸，岳不群一句“江湖上腥风血雨，为何吹打得了别人，吹打不了他”而将自己的责任一笔带过。

防御机制并不是病态，相反，它们在维持正常心理健康状态上起着重要的作用。但正常防御功能作用的改变也会引起心理病理状态，如造就了伪君子岳不群。

Mindstorm, You are beyond Sorhai, OMG..

http://markettruthseeker.blogspot.com/

Mindstorm wrote:

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Fundamental Analysis vs Tread Analysis

I say man : Technical Analysis lah! What the fxxk is that Tread Analysis?

FA and TA both depends on INFORMATION. Information comes from the underlying company and also from the perception/formulation of more information generated by the market. In other words, price of a stock is a function of both fundamentals and perception.

I say man : ??????

Fundamentals being the more important because without it there is no stock.FA tries to acertain the accurracy of the information coming out from the company and capitalize on the information discrepacy between the companies information and how the market evaluate it.

I say man : ?????? I really don't know what are you trying to say.

TA however assumes that the company is doing its job of making money and staying in existence but focus on the perception part of the price which is volatile. FA tries not to make such assumption but focus on ensuring the the company is doing so.If the company is doing its job then the price is long term bullish.If the company is not doing its job then the price is long term bearish.But either one, along the way the price goes up and down(provided there is enuf vol) due to perception and TA tries to profit from these movements.

I say man : ?????? You really need to brush up your English. Walaoeh!!!

TA depends on FA for security and movement.FA depends on TA for maximum profit. FA takes advantage of TA.Both depends on itself to work. Huh? Yes, this is the theory of reflexivity by Soros. TA and FA information is both generated by humans and they themselves affect the price.When FA fails, it is usually because of the inaccuracy of the companies information. At these times, TA can be useful because it can pick up certain clues(due to action of insiders and relatedparties that knows these information beforehand). FA also fails in bear-ing market.

I say man : ?????? What the fxxk...

On astrology and markets. Astrological information may have certain truth in it. But the write up aboutit causes an affect greater than the real affect it actually has(In other words, mainly crap). The fact that many ppl believe in it causes it to be true.(You believe it is a bad year to buy, then you dont buy. If enuf ppl dont buy then the market will be depress) This is also true for TA, the fact that many traders believe in TA also can cause the believe to manifest.How true is the statement that astrological is played up more than it actually is true?This is because when it comes to natural disasters(which cannot be affected by believe),astrology always play backhand smash. After it happens, a lot of crap comes out saying how astrology indicated that it will happen. But never can astrology call a forehand, otherwise everybody can avoid natural disaster.

I say man : Thank goodness. At least I see what you are trying to shoot at. Very funny, hahahaha.

If you think you understand FA, go read some Berkshire Shareholder letters by Buffet and ask yourself you really understand them or not.

If you think TA is crap, well, you don't even know TA stands for Technical Analysis and you have already come into conclusion.. OMG!!

I am not laughing at your English or FA/TA Knowledge actually, I am laughing at your Ego. You have a Ego so big that you are not going to learn, and yet you wanna express your opinions to the entire universe. OMG, you have a long way to go. Good luck my friend, you need it. Sorhai!!!!

Latest Sorhai is in - Super Sorhai 3

Super Saiyan 3 said...

Alala! I am here to see any tips from uncle Sam, why so much TA stuff oh! "V"

TA is trend follower! You TA guys un or not un? It MEANS when crude oil going down from USD147 to USD35, u keep shorting so now u r rich. TA Pro would have told you market is going down 1 year ago, so TA pro again did a lot of shorting.......If you missed that, your TA failed.

I say man : Trend Following is one of the trading method, and TA is the tool to play this method, OK? And you are right, trend following would short Crude Oil all the way down, but they would not be able to get the best prices, i.e . they would not be able to short at the highest or exit at the lowest.

It's like D-.

This is what TA does. It is the purpose of TA. So now TA pro will tell you market is going down. Why i am hearing u guys having buy call?

I say man : Buy call? Not to say totally can not, if play Swing Trading then OK, that is another trading method. Still ok one. You want to know more methods? Hahahaha...

For FA pro like Warren Buffett and Sifu Sam, this is a very exciting time as lots of cheap stocks available. Some house in US is selling for USD1,000 each and you can buy 1 chicken for HKD1.

I say man : FA? = Buy Cheap? Dead wrong! For instance, when Buffett bought Coca-Cola, it was not cheap. I don't want to give you free lessons. You do some homeworks please. And, don't simply mention Buffett here and there please, not working for Malaysia one. Understand? Sorhai! You are just another tips follower.

Herbert Really Surrenders, hahahaha!

Herbert said:

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

I had ceased my blogging due to no time

Posted by herbert at 1:42 PM 0 comments

I say man : Good for you Herbert, you pick a good timing to exit, better than your YTLPWR-WB exit timing. Hahahaha.

Samgoss again.. Bloody Bias Sorhai

Samgoss said...

2 Ivy...sime is a bad FA call ? ha ha.. I was wondering whether u understand what is FA or not ? , FA is not like TA , buy now , sell or cut loss when it break below/above d TP ! sime down 10cts from my cost, is it a bad FA call ? it is still too early to tell, perhaps u shld look at my ytlpwrwb @ 0.49 , she down to as low as 0.395 after my purchase, do u consider that as bad call oso ?? I think u need to find out more more about FA !

I say man : I no idea wat Ivy said, I just have to point out you all missing key element - "Time Frame". When you argue based on different "Time Frame", is in vain.

Max alread answered y TA can hv different views ? OMG ! u called that a answer ? he talked about volume , volume can be counted n formulated, whatever thingys that can be counted can also be formulated ! since it can be formulated , d views shld be d same !

I say man : TA different views because different "Time Frame" and types of "Trading Method". Just like FA, can have different views also, "Macro or Micro - data", "Demand and Supply - data".

Just like maths , whether u use 2 times 3 or 3 times 2 , d answer is still d same !

I say man : Likewise to FA, if so simply, then your fans no need you already.

FA can not be formulated due to unpredictable future earning ! that's y d views can be different ^V^ if u still dont understand this... i think god oso cant help u liaoo^V^

I say man : Opps. I thought I mentioned this above.

Talk about my epic, first pls look at my comment on epic, i said it is unconfirmed insider news , that's y i bot little bit only, n it turned up to be a false alarm , so cabut lah what to do ?

as for Huaan, cos commodities r all heading south , its future earning couldnt meet my forecast ( unpredictable future earning ) at d same time i found there is a better stock to swap to (ytlpwrwb ), hence i cut @0.575 n swap to ytlpwrwb , as simple as that lorr ^V^

I say man : So you also have stop loss wat...

4 me , TA is like gambling, as known to u all, out of ten gamblers , 9 will ended up in holland n d other one will die standing , since it is no good, y shld I keep quiet ? salah ka ?

Know y I 一竹竿打死整船人? find out yrself , which TA bloggers r doing well ? see yrself, how many of them still blogging now ? most of them r either half death ot gone with mr holland liaoo...am I not correct ? need me to name their TA blog out ?

I say man : You know why TA bloggers mostly failed in Malaysia? They are not good enough is one thing, another thing is the liquidity of shares in Malaysia. They are controlled, unlike US - bigger market, more liquidity.

2 max, ha ha macam ini pun boleh ar ?? FA n TA come to same conclusion ? ..u must be kidding ^V^.. recession is due to fundamental of d economy is coming down not bcos of TA lah.. dont simply call ppl mama if u see her wearing skirt..ok ?

I say man : I told you already, talking to a bias sorhai is plain useless.

besides d sour seng , R u saying all d TA bloggers out there r half tanker ? ha ha.. I like yr statement :-

To be good in TA, one must guard against many emotions. One of them is always to remain humble, ie no ego. And also to guard against vanity.

Hello max , by saying there r no good TA bloggers out there , do u think Max can still be humble n no ego ? ha ha ..what say u theng n ivy ? ha ha

January 21, 2009 12:46 AM

I say man : Sorhai samgoss not sincere in this discussion lah, pusing and pusing only. Then again, samgoss just char kwey tiao chinaman, not england gentleman.. Macam macam tactics also can. Hahahaha.

Come on Herbert, be a good sport pleaseeee?

Come on Herbert, be a good sport a bit can? Communication is a two way thing, why you don't answer me but accuse me instead.

herbert said...

Thanks for you (Kids, Ah seng's cow / TA follower) left such a kids statement in my blog.. I got other more important things to do rather spend time on this rubbish arguement..since you are very happy on my losses on YTLPOWER-WB huh?? Just Go ahead.. Pls don't disturb my blog again.. By the way, sorry that i making profit on UEMLAND huh?? jangan marah huh..
My time is for making future money.. not for you this otak cacat person always look behind things that has been passed.. what was passed has been done?? ok?? need to teach you again huh?? Ah Pek?? I will buy back YTLPOWER_WB again when Uncle Sam call to buy again.. Jangan marah huh?? Hahaha..

I say man : I am a grown-up man and my blog is not about TA or FA (but just about sorhai like ...you) and Ah Seng is another sorhai to me. Enough? I gave you very smart comment to you what, why can't you just face the reality?? huh? Yes, you got more important thing to do, like bodek samgoss or writing sour comments in Samgang, hahahaha, funny guy u r.

Making profits argh? Good for you lah, you need the profits to cover many losses oh. I am pround of you in fact, hahahaha. Who otak cacat, the one sold YTOPWR-WB at loss? hahahaha.

herbert said...

This is my last posting.. i will treat your posting on my blog is childish comment..
I really felt shame to visit your blog.. this is my last message for you. JAngan marah huh... (Grin).. from Herbert. Uncle Sam's follower...
P/s: thanks for releasing my comment in your blog for this TA follower read..
Wow!! Resort go up today!!! Fantastic..

January 20, 2009 3:54 PM

I say man : Hehehehe. ok, I accept your surrender. Happy investing. I hope you have a profitable 2009, unlike 2008. Whoa!

Herbert, Your Sifu is a 小人。

Herbert, I tell you what. I am just someone who knows Samgoss's tactic so well that I know his every move. Before you get angry or kepala angin, just read on. At least use your brain a bit this time:

1. Maxforce came into Samgang recently and discussed about TA, thanks to the Sorhai Seng, and no thanks.

2. Of course, your sifu had to act like gentleman, replied nicely firstly, because your sifu is many sorhai followers' idol.

3. Then suddenly, a new characther - "Theng" came in to Samgang also, started sour comments on Maxforce and Bizfun. That's so obvious, as if "Theng" was like spokeperson for Samgoss. Now, look at the screen shot below for the time and date of this "Theng" posted his comments.

Theng said...

"Dont count the CNY higher margin la. That one temporary only." - Oh.... your sifu teach you no need to calculate temporary higher margin ah? like that ah? so, let's assume RM 4000 stuck for the rest of the year with once in a while a higher margin, how much you wanna reserve to trade 1 lot? max, you can refer to your sifus, then only answer us. I wanted to know how TA skills / your accounting stuff can help you on this.

Sam, the game is getting exciting. I bet sorhai seng wanted to get involved, but too bad; he's not invited as we rather face maxforce (a reasonable guy at least)then 'paying piano with the sorhai bull'对牛弹琴, right?

January 18, 2009 3:16 AM

4. Then suddenly, some imposter of "Maxforce" appearing in a FKLI blog's chat room trying to insult others. That's so predictable, trying to creat havoc for the real Maxforce. That's the dirty trick often seen if there is any blogger trying to take on Samgoss. Again, look at the screen shot below for the time and date of this "Fake Maxforce" posted his comments.

8 Jan 09, 03:19

maxforce: i am a fkli expert. you guys are all stupid. listen to me at http://www.bizfun.cc/forum/index.php/topic,171.msg17707.html#ne

18 Jan 09, 03:18

maxforce: Margin is RM4000 now. Dont count the CNY higher margin la. That one temporary only.

5. So ngam arh? the date and time were so closed. Hahaha! The "Theng" and the "Fake Maxforce" are probably the same person, and probaly your sifu. Don't you know your sifu like to stay up late till early morning? Of course, I could be wrong, and I hope I am the wrong one, then the great sifu Samgoss is the one with "integrity"... my foot!!!! and dared to say "人在做，天在看".. i say "天收你"

Let me assure you, I am not on anybody's side, I just want to show some of the blind-folded fellows out there, Samgoss is a fake gentleman and a 真小人. Wake up. He may be able to make some real money from klse, that doesn't mean he is credible on his integrity. Wake up.

Samgoss's No.1 Sorhai Bodek Fan - Herbert

herbert said...

Dear Maxforce,
I have been following Uncle Sam's blog throughout many years but not a decades..
In reality, i'm still strongly agreed on FA approach practicing by Uncle Sam all the while. Instead of TA method (canddle stick, lead you to halland)..
In fact, if you carefully examine the business news in newspaper whether chinese or english.. Almost more than 50% of writer emphasis on EARNING DATA, BIZ PROSPECT comes to derive so call "PE RATIO"...
About your statement, everything has it's circle.. Fall and rise.. rise and fall.. I'm totally disagree on your concept in stock market..
Does it mean all Fund Manager are playing game??? Just goreng goreng in stock market?? The answer is no...
In fact, "brain play" come into most important parts to earn money.. nothing is free in this world!!!
Definately, they are doing their homework based on HISTORICAL DATA, FORECAST, BUDGET and BIZ ENVIRONMENT (MICRO OR MACRO Economic) to decide which are FUNDAMENTAL STOCK (gems) to invest..
So MAXforce, since you said TA are more powerful than FA??? Pls show me which blog has proven records with TA picks??? Pls do email me.. i felt very curious on this... Haha.. Or you maybe show me your forehand call on the counter that based on your TA principle?? Haha
Uncle Sam are using FA to earn money not TA.. If he is using TA?? Oh, i'm so sorry then.. wasting my time to type message in Uncle Sam blog..
Haha.. TA is trying to deceive people.. There is no fundamental data to support the explaination.. Fall and rise.. rise and fall???
If yes, i think all of us is playing the childish game in stock market..
Anyway, appreciated your reading my message.. No intentional offend on you.. Just want to tell you what is the fact!!! Fact is fact.. Nothing can change the fact.. unless the person trying to come out certain unreal statement to deceive himself.. well, since Seng Ko is happy with that.. just go ahead.. We can not force the cow (Ah Seng Cow) to drink water.. Hahaha...

Just joking.. Have a nice weekend ahead..

January 17, 2009 11:23 AM

Hahahahah, this Sorhai Herbert cooment really good for a laugh. It just shows how childish Herbert statements are. Herbert's opinions so strong that he is blinded to see the other side of the game, and not to mention Herbert himself just a tips followers, who doesn't have independant thinking and analysis on stocks. Whoa!

This one is even a bigger Sorhai! - fusioninvestor.blogspot.com

Hey Seng, if you think a person is worth nothing, you don't waste your time to such a length to come out this kind of childish proposal, OMG..

I know, you are trying to play game. What a way to start 2009! Grow up please.

Monday, January 12, 2009

Update on $4 Million proposal to Samgoss - A Second $8 Million Proposal

Further to my $4 Million per year proposal to Samgoss, fellow blogger Moolah has also blogged on my Public Offer here - http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.com/2009/01/local-malaysian-blgger-claims-markets.html

Moolah's Comments

1. "An extremely profitable proposal that Seng has made."

[Seng comment: Yes, I want to emphasize that $4 Million EACH YEAR is a LOT of money to turn down.

Does Sam currently earns $4 Million EACH YEAR?

Seriously Sam, tell me HOW MUCH do you earn EACH YEAR in the last 5 years?

I can guarantee you more - MUCH MUCH MORE - than what you earned in the last 5 years.

Of course, you'll need to provide proof of you past 5 years income at the very least.]

2. "Of course it's a double sworded as this proposal also equates to a massive challenge for Sam to prove that he is not a fake."

[Seng comment: I want to emphasize that whilst it's a massive challenge, it's very simple action for Sam.

Why?

Because I am only interested in The Truth.

If the past results are there, I want to emphasize that he doesn't need to fear anything, or need to to do anything more.

Just let his past results speaks for themselves.

The audit will merely discover and report that truth.

You see, when you apply for a $40,000 per annum job (let's not talk about $4 Million per annum job), it is standard procedure for you to fill an H.R. form to state your name, your I/C number, your contact phone number, etc.

In this job, because it relates to a hedge fund investing, your track record is important. So, it's only standard procedure to audit your past claims, so, one needs to see your past trades and verify it with your both the securities firm and the banks. With audited data, we will then do more analysis and come to our own conclusion. Sam, you don't need to try to explain how you did it.

I have no doubt Sam will have made past withdrawals from his stock account (to buy property, car, eat abalone, shark fin soup, etc. as he claimed), so, I want to verify in the audit that money has been withdrawn from the stock broking firm to his bank. Everyone can lie about anything, but PAST financial transactions that has been filed to the regulators/Bank Negara - in theory - cannot lie.

All my request is basic standard info for this type of job. Nothing special.

For $4 Million PER YEAR contract offer, why doesn't Sam want to tell me BASIC, STANDARD data?

What is he afraid of?

What is he hiding?

What is he not telling us?]

3. To be honest, 1500% in 16 years is such a record to be proud off.

[Seng comment: Agree absolutely. I want to add that he is actually much better than that, because in that 16 years, he has withdrawn substantial amount of monies regularly and still achieve his 1,500%]

3. Perhaps iCapital, Tan Teng Boo, should hire Sam here to be the chief investment manager for his closed end fund.

[Seng comment: Yes, I must reluctantly agree. They are my competitors, because every fund manager with a little bit of smarts (doesn't need to be as clever as Buffett) will immediately jump to see if they can hire / create new positions for this super-investor, if his results are genuine.]

4. And if Sam record is as genuine as he proudly proclaim, won't you even want to invest in his funds?"

[Seng comment: Agreed. That's my original proposal, which is specially intended to let EVERYONE, including and ESPECIALLY Sam's followers to benefit from this proposal.

Currently, there are TOO MANY real life problems to follow Sam's call-
1. It takes a lot of constant monitoring and work to follow his convoluted blog timely.
2. There is time-lag from the time he buy/sell to the time he blogs.
3. By the time you want to buy or sell something, the time lag means price will have gone up or gone down.
4. Sam's backhand - which means you misses out.
5. Sam keeping his best ideas to himself.
6. 100 other reasons and too long to blog about it.

So, why should anyone - using Sam's own words in his blog - "like ck5354, Dylan, ccdev, newbies n ivtac" accept inferior method now?

So, I came up with this idea, so that EVERYONE now have a chance to get EXACTLY what Sam gets, and EVERYONE in his blog should be HAPPY and join my suggestion.

I really hope to hear from "ck5354, Dylan, ccdev, newbies n ivtac" that they like this idea.

Isn't this a good idea? If it's not good, why is it not good? Write to me, and tell me objectively and concretely why it's not a good idea.

You see, if we can pool Sam's own money TOGETHER with EVERYONE's, then, Sam's work is easier also.

He doesn't need to blog anymore. With his spare time, he can use my chatbox and my blog to continue to rubbish TA methods and to rubbish STOP LOSSES!

Yet, so many of Sam's "followers" are against this business proposal!

I am genuinely dissappointed that Sam's followers have not thought about Sam's BEST interest.

If they did, they all will be asking Sam to accept my business proposal.

Sam makes the Most Money out of my proposal.

His supporters will make MORE money than they did before.

Everyone here also Makes Money!

Win/Win/Win!

Isn't this logical?]

Jason Ups His Offer to $20 Million above my estimation

Jason responded with an even bigger offer than I estimated - https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=935072059836759128&postID=6590073621444877083.

1. "Put me on the audit team. I don't trust the majority of Malaysian audit firms. (having worked on their teams or with friends who worked there)

[Seng comment: No problem. I will also be on the audit team myself.]

2. If I like what I see, I will personally put another RM2 million into this fund. And will attempt to put RM20 million in from friends and family."

[Seng comment: Jason, I am sure ALL of Sam's followers will thank-you from the bottom of their heart for your support!

With your extra contributions, Sam can now look forward to $8 Million Income in 2009!]

Sam turned down my $4 Million Offer

1. See his blog here. http://samgang.blogspot.com/2009/01/v-wow-4-mil-offer-by-sour-seng-ah-seng.html

2. From a business perspective, I am extremely dissappointed with his childish response. There are MORE nonsense, and no serious consideration at all. No serious business man would respond like this in real life.

3. He responded by showing what he claimed to be his Public Bank pass book voluntarily to everyone.

a. How do we know this is his passbook and not someone else's without knowing his full name or his I/C number, and have this verified with Public Bank management?

b. Why show just one snapshot? Why not show everything continuously over the past 16 years to the external auditor in confidence? The external auditor can verify with Public Bank management.

Sam, do you see the problem with your response?

Sam's Compounded Annual Returns are MUCH higher than 1500%

You must remember that:

1. In 1992, Sam starts with $12k, as he said in his latest article above.

2. In 2008, Sam's fund is around $700k?

3. The yearly return = (700,000 / 12,000) ^ (1/16) = 28.93% per annum.

4. However, his true compounded yearly return would have been much higher than this, because over the years, he has withdrawn monies for the following purposes:

a. He purchased in his own words "properties". (Yes, he mentioned this more than once in his blog). KL properties - especially when renovated so nicely in his blog - is not cheap.

b. He purchased a BMW car, and very likely more than just one car over the last 17 years. BMW cars are not cheap like Proton cars ...

c. He withdrawn his fund to pay for his living expenses. Living in KL - even on poor taste - is not cheap.

d. He has expensive taste - just look at the food he boasts about.

e. Even if you conservatively estimate $4,000 per month to live in KL, which is EXTREMELY cheap, already, this is $50,000 per year, or $800,000 over last 16 years. Who pays for his living expenses? Is this from his investment earnings?

f. Conservatively, if you believe his blog, he would have spent additional $2 million to $3 million or even more just on items a., b., c., d., e. over the last 16 years.

g. What about sex? Do you think he pays for that or do you think he has a girlfriend or a wife? Add that to the expenditure.

h. Which means, he must have used just $12,000 to generate say $3 million to $4 million OR MORE at the least in the last 16 years.

h. But if he had compounded his returns, it would be much bigger than $3 million to $4 million at the least. Imagine if he had no spending? The monies saved in earlier years would have grown even more!!

i. So, my wild, rough guess is something like 100% per annum. He should be able to achieve this very easily, especially, when he has earned 299% over 26 months, or more than 115% per annum.

j. Do you see why this guy is MUCH BETTER than Warren Buffett?

Conclusion

This guy deserves to be investigated and audited in detail.

Seriously!

He claims to be THAT good, I don't know of anyone else on earth that comes close to his results.

All newspapers - not just Malaysian, but the Entire World - must know about him.

So, Sam, I am giving you a 2nd chance to have your results audited.

Why can't we deal like business-men?

I want to be your Manager.

Business-men don't need to rubbish each other.

I am not upset with you at all. I'm annoyed at your childish nonsense, but I'm never upset at you.

I just see a wonderful - once in a lifetime business opportunity - in you. If all your claims are true. We can make money together. I see GLOBAL OPPORTUNITY IN YOU!

My offer is genuine, because throughout my entire life, I have NEVER met anyone with a record like yours.

I have a close friend who is a Chief Investment Officer in a global financial organization based overseas (and his organization also has some investments in KLSE), and he has never heard of anyone with a record like you who managed to achieve what you did without leverage.

Conversely, he has seen, heard, and met far too many people who boasts like you, but in reality, are just "KOSONG", or are part of a syndicate.

So, if you are genuine, let's do business together, and let's start by having the results of yours audited.

Alternative Proposals If You don't want to work for me

With your talent Samgoss, I have MANY alternative proposals for you even if you don't like $8 Million PER YEAR!

Even if you don't want to work for me, but you can work for someone else, I also have MANY BUSINESS PROPOSALS for you! E.g. just look at the biography by Alice Schroeder on Buffett called "The Snowball". I want to get someone like Alice to write a biography on Samgoss life AFTER we audit!

We can discuss ANYTHING. But let's audit your results first. No need to fear anything if it's true. There's an English saying that says "Why would I want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg?" Samgoss - you ARE my Golden Goose!

I hope to hear a serious response this time.

Thank-you.

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